Alabama House Representative - District 11 forum

0:31 Hello and welcome to the beautiful Bailey Center auditorium on the grounds of Wallace State College in Hansville.

0:38 Thank you to our gracious hosts Wallis State College and Dr. Vicky Carlos. The

0:44 2025 Tribune debate series and question and answer forums continues today with municipal elections, but we start with

0:52 district 11 special election scheduled for this Tuesday. These events are designed to give the public more

1:00 unfiltered answers without the questions ahead of time, direct comparisons, and meaningful conversation. Today we will

1:08 focus on House Representative District 11 forum along with Cullman City Council's place one, place three, place

1:16 four, and place five. Uh we would like to go ahead and welcome uh Alex Brazwell to our question and

1:24 answer forum today. We thank you for coming out. Uh candidate Heath Albbright had a conflicting event and was unable

1:32 to attend. The Tribune works diligently to reach every candidate, but if a candidate declines to respond to emails

1:40 or calls, there's only so much we can do. The invitation stands, the forum is

1:45 open. If a candidate does not attend, an empty chair will sit beside those who

1:50 do. This has been done at all debates in the past and this year. With that being

1:55 said, we'll get on with the rules. No electronic devices on or permitted during the forum or debates. This will

2:03 be a question and answer forum since you do not have a opposing candidate here.

2:08 Your opening statement will be 60 seconds and may be a prepared statement. Uh you will have three minutes to answer

2:16 each question instead of two. Your closing statement will be two minutes instead of 90 seconds. Um, the only

2:24 rebuttals you'll have, I may have a few questions and facts only, no accusations,

2:32 and voters deserve more than slogans. So, Mr. Brazwell, if you would, uh, if

2:39 you'd like to give your opening statement. >> Sure. >> So, my name is Alex Brazwell, and I'm

2:44 the Democratic nominee for Alabama House District 11. I'm the first female nominee in history for this position.

2:51 I'm a sign language interpreter by trade and the proud wife to my husband

2:56 Jeffrey. We've had an excellent campaign. We've had a lot of support on the way. We've built a great family for

3:02 the Democratic Party of Cullman, Alabama. I am endorsed by Representative James Fields, Senator Zeb Little, and US

3:09 Senator Doug Jones. I can't help but point out the empty chair sitting next

3:14 to me because this is what I see when I see Republican representation in my

3:18 county. an empty chair just like Bob Adhole. So, I'm here to answer any

3:23 questions anyone has and I want to shed some light on the campaign that has

3:28 worked so hard to make a difference here in Cullman County. >> All right. Thank you for your opening

3:34 statement and we'll get right into the questions. Uh we'll start with local priorities.

3:40 What do you see as the single most pressing issue facing District 11 right

3:45 now? And what would you do in Montgomery to address it? >> I feel like in Cullman County right now,

3:53 road safety is one of our biggest concerns. Even just my drive here was

3:58 filled with potholes, single lane tunnels that are known for taking the roofs off of box trucks. We've got to

4:05 have more tax allocation and funding set forward to our Department of Transportation here. as well as we need

4:11 to have more economic development here, but in a smart, smooth, and operative way that does not pose a harm to our

4:17 community. So, in Montgomery, I would advocate for more funding being properly allocated to the Department of

4:24 Transportation to ensure we have a safe community and to bring down the number

4:28 of fatalities we have on Cullman County roads every year. >> Thank you for that answer. And I have

4:34 just one quick followup on that. Uh in the past, ALDOT has made some decisions

4:39 which have gone against majority of Cullman County wishes. Uh the most recently being the dividers going down

4:47 278. Um would you want those removed? And if so, what would you do to get those

4:55 removed? >> The dividers on 278. >> 278 going. >> Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking

5:00 about. Um, look, the Department of Transportation has engineers that know better than me when it comes to road

5:06 safety. I would listen to their advice. I would listen into their reasoning as

5:09 to why they place them there. If the choice was personally in my hands, no, I

5:13 wouldn't take them down. But if it was approved by engineers and road safety

5:16 specialists that they could come down and not pose a threat, then yes, I would

5:20 advocate to take them down. >> Thank you so much for that response. And

5:23 we'll move straight on to economic growth. Cullman County and surrounding areas are growing quickly. What specific

5:32 industries or business would you work to recruit and what guard rails would you

5:38 set to make sure growth doesn't hurt longtime residents? >> I feel here because we are such a large

5:45 agricultural area, this could be a booming location for hemp farming specifically. There are four hemp

5:52 farmers in Blunt County that are already prepared to grow hemp, to extract hemp,

5:57 but with HB445 that really gosh that cut off our community, put a damper in our

6:03 community development. As far as safeguards go in place, I know that with hemp and with THC derived or with hemp

6:10 derived canabonoids that we do need to have monitors in place and I picture a

6:15 monitor such as meth check that's used to curb back pseudafed usage across the

6:20 state of Alabama. That same type of program can be applied to age restricted

6:25 stores here to make sure there's no overpurchasing, overconumption to ensure there's no resale to kids. Also ensuring

6:33 keeping a a reasonable property tax for businesses that want to move here and

6:38 ensuring we have the space to accommodate them without furthering uh our issues with road safety here and

6:44 thinking thoroughly about how we can offer jobs here. May it be in manufacturing, may it be in medical

6:51 development, research development, that they have the resources that are needed here, they have the facilities that are

6:58 needed here, and that the contracts we make with those companies want to stay

7:02 here long term. >> Thank you for your response. And you mentioned hemp uh specifically in SP455

7:11 or correctly 445 and uh I know that is age restricted and I know it removes a

7:18 lot out of gas stations. For those who are saying we get our medicine uh let us

7:23 have our medicine but it's coming from a gas station that has a variety let's say

7:28 50 60 different types. Do you believe that all those can actually be tested or do you think age

7:35 restricted is the proper way to go? >> So in HB445, the bill itself, I read it

7:42 front to back, top to bottom, and it specifies in the bill that a product

7:45 that is allowed to be sold must be verified and have an assay, which is a

7:51 concentration percentage through a nonbiased laboratory. And I have no idea what a nonbiased laboratory is. So, we

7:59 would need to take that vague language, first things first, out of the bill. I

8:03 know that hemp is a no man's land and is the wild wild west right now. I

8:08 understand restrictions need to be in place. I understand proper safeting safety needs to be in place, but this is

8:14 where more development across the state of Alabama can help us in this industry

8:18 because it's a win-winwin. Hemp helps decrease the opiate epidemic. It helps decrease alcohol usage. It helps

8:26 decrease nicotine usage. And those safety mechanisms to put in place to test those products are already there.

8:34 They're already there. But unless the FDA gets involved here and starts assigning national drug codes to all

8:40 these products, we are going to be stuck in no man's land. Unless we have an

8:44 advocate in Montgomery to push forward for we need the agricultural development here, we need the safety precautions

8:51 here. We need the monitoring here. And I agree with calculating an assay on all

8:56 products, testing for heavy metals, or any additional additives. But I do think we need to remove the vague language

9:03 from SB445 stating that the laboratory must be nonbiased. I don't, like I said,

9:08 I don't know how a laboratory can hold up biased, unnecessary wording. >> Okay. Thank you so much for that

9:15 response. I know that's a big topic amongst a lot of people here, especially

9:20 since we have uh one of the first uh legal hemp farms that started up

9:25 here. Um we'll move on to education. With teacher shortages across Alabama, what policies would you support to

9:34 recruit and keep strong teachers in District 11 schools? >> So, District 11 specifically has two

9:41 schools on our list that are considered two of the hardest to staff areas in the

9:46 state of Alabama. One being Parkside Elementary School, one being Susan Moore. And in a dream world, which I

9:54 would love, a bill that I would propose is a year round salary, not one that's

10:01 opt in or opt out. Teachers will constantly have a year- round salary based at a minimum of $60,000 a year.

10:08 That all classroom funding will be dispersed on August the 1st instead of October the 1st. And that uh if

10:17 possible, I'd like to make teachers tax exempt. They have provided an unvaluable resource to this community. They have

10:26 there I mean no one has gotten where they have gotten without having an

10:30 excellent teacher standing directly behind them. And I feel like the state of Alabama should repay that by paying

10:37 them well, by staffing our schools well, by paying our aids well, our specials

10:41 well, like SLPs, interpreters, uh, counselors, especially aologists, speech therapists, they all need to be properly

10:49 accounted for, properly staffed, properly supported. And all this fighting that school boards do about

10:56 following the idea and the ADA and the ADA, I'm sorry, and section 504 needs to

11:02 go away. This needs to be an understood notion. Federal law must be followed when it

11:09 comes to protecting our students in schools. And it is our job to ensure

11:13 that teachers have what they need. Two teachers should never have to work two

11:16 jobs. That's just something that's un unimaginable to me. So, if I could set

11:23 forth a bill for negotiation that sets a minimum teacher salary of $60,000 a

11:28 year, proper dispersement of education funding where they can actually benefit off of it at the first of the year

11:33 instead of half, you know, a quarter of the way through the year, and

11:37 maintaining a tax tax exempt status for teachers, I feel like would be a great

11:41 way to bring more teachers into our schools. And to follow that up, um, first, how

11:48 would you go about funding the increases? And, uh, second, what would be the limit on tax exemptions? Is it

11:58 only for things that they are purchasing for school or is it all goods and

12:03 everything? >> I think the salary should be tax exempt. I think anyone that serves in a school

12:09 system, their their salary should be tax exempt. As far as whe the where the

12:14 funding allocation is going to come from. I feel like this is an old record

12:16 that's been played and played and played. Lord Almighty, just pass a lottery bill, a standalone lottery bill.

12:23 50% of funding goes to education, 50% of funding goes to road safety. Ensure

12:28 there's no corruption in the bill. Ensure no one privately benefits from the bill and rebuild that funding to

12:36 pour into our education system. When you read our tax summary here and our budget

12:42 here for the state of Alabama, the things that the state of Alabama pours

12:46 money into has never made much sense to me. And if we put, let's say, a tax

12:51 exempt status max of $5,000 a year on teachers overall, in theory, that should

12:59 not affect Alabama to the point of absolute destruction because there are other means of funding that can be

13:05 reallocated. And there are also grants galore from the federal government to ensure that especially special needs

13:12 services are properly provided for and have the money that they need. Thank you so much for that response and

13:20 we will keep moving on to infrastructure. Roads, bridges, and internet services are critical for growth. What is one

13:29 infrastructure project in district 11 you believe should ha should receive priority state funding?

13:39 >> I'm actually going to compliment my predecessor Randall Shed in this regard. Uh Randall did an excellent job with

13:45 broadband expansion and that's something that I would like to continue especially now with charter schools and virtual

13:50 schools playing a larger part in our education system. making sure that those students that do want to participate in

13:57 virtual school, those students that that need to participate in virtual school uh because of whatever reason need to be

14:04 home with family or disability that broadband isn't an issue, especially out in the northern parts of Blunt County.

14:11 Now, the highest priority still is obviously road safety. I'm still constantly amazed by the amount of

14:17 fatalities we have here in the county because the roads seem so fairly straightforward, but they're in terrible

14:22 condition. So, I would want to work with the DOT in both Cullman and Blunt

14:28 County. Definitely have a sit down meeting and have them point blank tell me what it is I can do and immediately

14:33 press a bill to the floor stating that this is what my community needs in order

14:37 to keep itself safer. So, if you were given a list of roads uh

14:42 by constituents, >> would you actually go out and look at the areas? >> Yeah.

14:47 >> Yeah. And I mean, I can name like three off the top of my head. So, County Road

14:51 783 specifically comes to mind. Uh 747 specifically comes to mind. 278 specifically comes to mind. And

14:59 especially you get out into Blunt County, there aren't really roads at all in some areas. They're just well driven

15:04 over grass. So, or have years long packed gravel on top of them. So, yes,

15:10 any and I I would love for any constituent that's having a specific problem on a specific road. I mean, take

15:16 a picture, email me. If I need to come out and look at it and advocate, then

15:20 that's exactly what I will do. >> Thank you so much for that answer. And

15:26 we will keep moving on to healthc care access. Many rural areas still struggle with

15:33 limited health care services. What steps would you support to improve health care access for families in this district?

15:42 >> One would be to address Medicaid expansion in the state house. I know

15:47 that there's 600,000 persons across the state of Alabama that don't qualify by today's means of qualification through

15:54 Medicaid, but are definitely entitled to it. Children without insurance because though their parents have jobs, parents

16:01 can pay afford to pay in making sure Medicaid expanded to the children who need it uh despite income

16:11 limits and then having our income limits adjusted for inflation. Right now the income maximum for Alabama Medicaid is

16:17 $15,000 a year for a family of two which makes absolutely no sense. That is so

16:23 low that income max needs to be readjusted for re for realistic poverty levels here in the state. And I'm also a

16:31 firm believer of Alabama legislation not being a nanny to the community. When I

16:39 worked in pharmacy, Alabama Medicaid was by far one of the most difficult insurance companies to bill

16:46 prescriptions through because of their ridiculous policies requiring brandame drugs when they weren't necessary, not

16:54 covering certain drugs. Even as far as OTC medications that were definitely needed for a child that had like a 103

17:01 fever and constant prior authorizations for these medications that these children obviously needed the those are

17:10 regulations that I would sit down talk to medical professionals talk to pharmacists and have reduced. It's not

17:16 our job to pick and choose what medication a child needs. That's a phys

17:19 physician's job and should stay a physician's job and pull back on the regulations like on St. Vincent's Blunt

17:27 that are causing them to nearly lose their rural status because of the percentage of Medicare or Medicaid

17:32 patients that they take. No one should be turned away for medical care ever

17:36 because of the kind of insurance they have. >> Thank you so much for that response. I

17:42 know that's a difficult topic on for a lot of people. We're going to move right

17:47 on to taxpayer accountability. How will you ensure that tax dollars from district 11 are spent responsible

17:56 responsibly and return fair value to this community? >> To me, that's fairly simple. And this is

18:05 what excellent teams of supportive people around you are for. There's not a document too large that I will not sit

18:12 down and read to ensure that funding is being properly allocated across the state. And that will include going to

18:19 boards of education, going to individual schools, going to DOS and counties and ensuring that they're receiving the

18:26 funding that they need and if not returning back to the Alabama state house and approaching our senator

18:32 Garland Gudger as to how he and I can collaborate to ensure that the community

18:36 is getting what they need. Thank you so much. That was direct and to the point. So, we'll just keep on

18:42 moving to state versus local power. >> How do you balance representing the values of local voter voters with the

18:53 broader pressure of Montgomery politics? >> Ignore Montgomery. I mean, people come to me all the time with

19:05 facts and matters that I know affect the entire state, and they often forget that I'm just here to

19:10 represent District 11. I'll advocate obviously, and I will help any representative, obviously, no matter

19:17 their political party to advocate for what they need for their community as well. But as for me personally, my eyes

19:23 will always be on District 11. Any bill that's affecting our community, had I

19:29 been in the legislature this past congressional session. I would have signed against HB445 unlike Garland Gudger. I would

19:39 have signed against SB 322 unlike Garland Gudger. I would have signed against SB 110 unlike Garland Gudger. I

19:48 would make sure that these bills place forward benefit my community and benefit the community of all the representatives

19:56 that surround me and listen to every opinion that comes in, but especially the opinions of my community and make

20:01 sure this is what they need, the balance of how they'll be affected and handing

20:06 over more power to our chamber of commerce as well as our county commissions to make sure their voices

20:12 are being heard and their needs are being met. >> Thank you. And uh I know that uh many

20:19 have heard in the past where freshman uh representatives go down to Montgomery and are called into a meeting and

20:27 basically told you're going to have to vote a few ways that you're not going to

20:30 want to vote in order to ensure that you're getting what you need for your

20:35 district. If that is the case, would you stay the hard line or would you kind of

20:41 deviate as long as it did not affect the voters in your district in a

20:47 negative way? >> Well, this is where communicating with your district matters. While I'm there

20:52 as a representative and to represent our community, I'm also a conduit. And that's exactly what I do as an

20:57 interpreter. I've interpreted as an ASL interpreter plenty of things I did not feel comfortable saying with my own

21:05 mouth, but it wasn't my message. It was a deaf consumer's message that I was

21:09 simply passing on. So, I mean, I would love for somebody to look me in the face

21:15 and say, "Well, you're going to have to vote differently." No, I will go to my

21:20 community. I will listen to my community. I will take fair opinions from my community. make an educated

21:25 decision on that based on fact, reason, and community voices, not based on my

21:30 own opinion. >> Thank you for that response. And we will keep going on to public safety.

21:39 What role should the state play in supporting local law enforcement and first responders in District 11,

21:52 ensuring that they have the funding that they need, ensuring that we have proper

21:56 incentive incentives for uh to have the proper task force, but Lord, to also

22:02 ensure that we have the proper training after the disaster that was the Hansville Police Department and after

22:08 some recent legislation. as to partial immunity with the Alabama State uh police. We need to set forth legislation where

22:16 police are not required to wear masks unless it is medically required due to

22:21 an environmental issue or illness. And we also need to push forward on, I

22:29 cannot stress this enough, proper training, proper awareness, especially when pulling over persons with

22:34 disabilities. I have seen multiple v videos across the state of Alabama persons who can't talk,

22:40 can't hear, uh maybe aware and allowed to drive but still have a mild visually

22:46 impairment or if they're autistic, if they're combative uh upon approach because of a mental health disorder,

22:55 those need to be trained, those need to be focused. And we need to bring in more

23:00 attention to the fact that houses and persons can be registered through the 911 system as well as notes added to

23:06 their driver's license that state if there's medical issue with this person that you are pulling over and having the

23:11 proper training for our police officers to approach that situation properly to deescalate that situation properly and

23:20 as is the case in Blunt County not just handcuffing somebody that's going through a mental health crisis and

23:25 taking them to their mental health officer. because they don't have a county mental health center.

23:30 But also, partial immunity, in my opinion, shouldn't be an option for police officers. Police officers are not

23:37 meant to be bullies or presidents in our community. They're meant to protect and

23:41 serve our community. And I wish them to do just that with impartiality. >> Thank you so much for your response on

23:49 that question. And we will keep going and to transparency and influence. Voters often worry about lobbyist and

23:59 pack influence in Montgomery. How will you remain transparent and accountable in your decision making?

24:07 >> Again, communicating with my community. I mean, I harp on the word communication

24:10 a lot, but it's truly what I do in my career. I talk for a living. I

24:15 communicate for a living. As far as lobbying goes, I'm not a fan of lobbying

24:19 whatsoever. And that's a point that I have made on this campaign. I have not

24:23 received support from packs or or businesses or corporations unlike my opponent. I I don't think it's a good

24:32 path to follow because regardless of if the the funding was taken in good faith,

24:38 that pack or that corporation or that lobbyist still has a power over you to

24:43 influence you to vote in a certain way. I don't want fame. I don't want money. I

24:49 don't want to get rich or have an exorbitant amount of campaign funding based on lobbyists and pack funding that

24:56 I'm given. I want to earn the donations that are given to me by those that

25:00 believe in me and keep my vision focused on what my community needs without

25:06 financial compensation. So, if you were elected and then you had to run for reelection because this is a

25:13 short term and you ended up meeting several people uh that are impacts, would you deny their funding if they

25:21 offered? >> It would depend on the pack. There's a progressive women's pack that uh is very

25:26 supportive in our our community as well as the Democratic Victory Fund that's held by our House Minority Leader

25:31 Anthony Daniels. I would make sure their beliefs align with mine, but the the

25:39 only exception to my rule with funding that I would gladly take because I will

25:44 always advocate for is unions. I will always accept funding. >> Thank you so much for that response.

25:52 And we have reached our final question for this question and answer forum and

25:57 constituent access. How will you make sure voters in district 11 can reach you and have their

26:05 voices heard once you are in office? >> I've already got an excellent team

26:10 around me that help me communicate with my community as it is positions I will

26:14 offer for them to continue with when I am elected. And I will take full advantage of the

26:21 Alabama Democratic Chairs Association and make sure that everyone across the state of Alabama has proper access to

26:27 the Democratic Chairs Association website with their email addresses. They can feel free to email Ricky Browning

26:33 here, the Cullman County Democratic Chair. They can email Riley McDermott, the Blunt County Democratic Chair, and

26:39 of course, they can email me and text me and and leave me a message. And I'll

26:45 leave open office hours to ensure that I can take time to sit down and speak with

26:51 my community and and make sure I I have an honest fear of not being able to

26:56 fully communicate with my entire community because I know what it's like to scream into avoid trying to gain

27:02 access and accessibility for a community and that is not a path that I'm going to

27:07 follow. >> So if elected and you have you have a bill that is presented

27:15 and you're going to vote on it within one week. Session lasts from Monday until

27:21 Thursday. They typically let let out on Friday. Sometimes they actually work through Friday. So, would you have any

27:28 issues coming and having a city hall or town hall forum uh when such a big vote

27:35 comes up? >> Doug Jones would kill me if I didn't. But also, that's town halls are one of

27:40 the most fun things to do. having meet and greets, meeting at I mean even just

27:45 simple things, meeting at a restaurant, just sitting down, forming a common dialogue. But as our current

27:51 representation has taught us, especially Robert Holt, who five, six, seven town halls through the month of April that

27:58 counties held all over that he never showed up to and I do not intend to

28:02 follow in that path. I will absolutely continue with town halls, meet and greets, local county Democratic party

28:09 meetings and GOP party meetings should they feel inclined to invite me. And I

28:14 will listen to every voice no matter how kind or harsh and just sit down, form a

28:19 common dialogue. It doesn't always have to be negative or a debate. We can we

28:24 can sit down and talk about anything. >> Thank you so much for coming out and

28:29 answering our questions, Miss Brazwell. We appreciate you taking time out of your schedule to to come out this

28:35 morning and speak to everyone. Um, we'll go to your closing statement now. You

28:41 have two minutes. So, I know our election is fast approaching and there's a message that I

28:47 want to properly properly represent is that there was never a chance on no matter

28:54 how the polls turn on Tuesday for failure in this campaign because no matter what, we won. For the first time

29:00 in nearly 15 years, Cullman County in District 11 had the opportunity to vote

29:07 for a Democrat. they have the opportunity to vote for a woman to stand

29:11 up and represent their community. That in itself was a victory. Blunt County reforming their Democratic Party.

29:18 Cullman County in increasing their momentum in our Democratic party was a victory in itself. Doug Jones coming

29:25 here and co-hosting a town hall with me and opening the floor to our community

29:30 and taking some of the most educated and wellthoughtout questions I have ever received from my community was a

29:37 victory. This campaign there is no loss depend no matter how the polls go. We

29:44 have done a great job. We've brought the representation that Cullman County needs, but also we need to accustom ourselves

29:51 to every election being contested because my job from henceforth, may it be myself running again or someone else

29:59 running again, is to train new candidates, to encourage new candidates, to be a shoulder to lean on for new

30:05 candidates, and to make sure that the drama and the melee of it all that goes

30:10 on behind the scenes is quieted and that there's a straightforward route for others in their community to step

30:15 forward and contest these long non-contested elections. So, as our campaign goes, this is a new wave across the state of

30:28 Alabama. Going to Montgomery will ensure that you have someone in the House of

30:33 Representatives that is 100% throwing their soul behind advocating for the rights of the disabled that is throwing

30:39 their soul behind making sure our education system has enough funded and that funding and that it is properly

30:45 allocated. I cannot stress that enough that our agricultural system has exactly what they need to continue on their

30:53 businesses and that will not be based on my opinions. that will be based on me

30:57 speaking to every business that needs help that is struggling and also to push

31:04 forth the ideas that we've constantly been ignoring to increase minimum wage to increase the income limits on

31:12 Medicaid and food stamps. So on Tuesday when you go to the polls I want you to

31:20 think about the representation that you want in your district. Do you want the

31:24 representation that just stuck an R at the end of their name and said, "Okay,

31:28 let's just roll right on through." Or do you want the representation that stood

31:32 up as a Democrat, knowing the odds in this election, and fought as hard as we

31:36 have? Anyway, we have raised far more funding than I could ever imagine. We've put every cent of that to

31:45 good use, and every single cent of that money was given to me by people that

31:48 believe in me, and I'm the most proud of that. So on August the 26th on Tuesday,

31:53 I encourage every soul to go to the poll and help me and my campaign make

31:58 history. >> Thank you so much for your remarks and thank you again for showing up and

32:05 coming out today. I know uh getting on stage and answering questions are not

32:10 always the funnest thing to do on a Saturday morning, but we do appreciate

32:13 you coming out. Uh we appreciate everyone in the audience and everyone who watched at home and will watch

32:18 later. We want to again extend our thank you to Wallis State College and Vicky

32:23 Carowicks for allowing us to be here and being a gracious host. Uh and with that,

32:29 this forum ends and we will be back at 200 p.m. with place one of Cullman City

32:35 Council and we have four full debates scheduled starting at 2 PM. Again, thank

32:42 you, Miss Brazwell, for showing up. And that will do it for today. Thank you.