Alabama House District 12 runoff debate
Hello and welcome to the Alabama House District 12 runoff. Well, was to be a debate. Uh we are live at the beautiful Bailey Center auditorium on the grounds of Wallace State College in Hanceville.
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0:33 Hello and welcome to the Alabama House District 12 runoff. Well, was to be a
0:39 debate. Uh we are live at the beautiful Bailey Center auditorium on the grounds
0:44 of Wallace State College in Hanceville. Thank you to our gracious host Wallace State College and Dr. Vicky Carlos for
0:52 believing that hearing from candidates is important. The 2025 Tribune debate series continues this summer and into
1:00 the fall with a full slate of forums for candidates in House District 11, House
1:05 District 12, and local municipal elections. These events are designed to give the public more than slogans. They
1:13 offer unfiltered answers, direct comparisons, and meaningful accountability. Today, we focus on the runoff election for Alabama House
1:22 Representative District 12 uh between candidates Clint Hollingsworth and Cindy Mrex. While Clint Hollingsworth is here
1:31 this afternoon, Cindy Mrex declined invitations to join the debate. She provided the following statement. I'm
1:39 truly grateful for the invitation to participate in another debate. However, I will respectfully decline at this
1:46 time. I've had the opportunity to join two forums alongside my opponent. One with the Cullman County Republican Party
1:53 and another with the Cullman County Chamber of Commerce. I've also shared several videos and continue to spend as
2:01 much time as possible out in the community listening to voters and connecting with families across the
2:07 district. Right now, I feel the best way I can serve this campaign is by being
2:13 present and accessible to the people I hope to represent. Thank you again for
2:18 the invitation and for your understanding. Sincerely, Cindy Mrex. The Tribune works diligently to reach
2:26 every candidate, but if a candidate declin declines to respond to emails, calls, there's only so much we can do.
2:34 The invitation stands, the forum is open. If a candidate does not attend, an
2:39 empty chair will sit beside those who do. With all of that being said, let's get
2:46 on with it. Candidate rules. We're gonna kind of change this up a little bit more
2:51 >> what it is, but these are the basic candidate rules for all debates.
2:55 >> No electronic devices permitted. Uh questions will be presented in a question and answer format since your
3:01 opponent elected not to attend. Uh opening statement is limited to 60 seconds and may be a prepared statement.
3:08 Time allotted will be two to three minutes. Uh since this will be a Q&A
3:14 closing statement is limited to 2 minutes and must be spoken without notes. Uh voters deserve substance over
3:22 slogans. Talking points won't be enough. So please remember to answer the questions as they are asked. So let's
3:30 begin. Absolutely. >> All right. And so we're going to start and uh Mr.
3:36 Hollingsworth, if you would please introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about yourself.
3:40 >> Okay. So, I'm Clint Hollingsworth. I'm running for House District 12 seat uh
3:45 here in Cullman County. And I've been working hard on the campaign trail and
3:50 got to meet a lot of different folks and had a had a really good time. Very
3:54 educational experience and really look forward to serving uh everybody in this district. Um we certainly have a lot of
4:00 needs and things that we need to to tackle and uh look forward to showing up
4:04 in Montgomery like I'm showing up today to to discuss those issues. And I want
4:09 to make sure that everybody always knows I will make time to um to be at any type
4:14 of debate or forum to answer questions and make sure that people understand where I'm coming from and maybe some
4:19 things that we're dealing with uh in our district. So I appreciate the opportunity. I appreciate Dr. Carloitz
4:25 um hosting this. This room is pretty special and really this campus is special to me because uh attended Wall
4:31 State uh here back in right out probably 1995 to97. It's hard to think it's been
4:39 that long ago. Uh but uh unbelievable how it's transformed and grown and uh
4:44 has really made an impact that really we probably never be able to measure um of
4:49 all the folks that's come through here and has got a career and really u
4:53 improve their their life and their family's life. And so this room also back in '08 was special because my first
5:01 year on council this is where we had a big announcement uh for Royal
5:05 Technologies coming to Cullman. And if y'all remember in '08, uh there was nothing good going on when it came to
5:11 the economy. It was a downturn and it was bad, but this was unbelievable shot
5:16 in the arm for this community. Um and we're glad that they still are here and
5:20 doing very well. So, thank you for inviting me. >> Yes, sir. Thank you for showing. Um
5:25 we're going to get right into the questions with question number one. Uh some of these are Tribune were put
5:32 together by the Tribune and then we have these lovely audience questions. So, we're going to look like a surprise.
5:38 >> Yeah, we're going to we're going to get in between those between uh question
5:41 three and four and between question six and seven. So, we'll answer we'll get
5:45 some of those. >> Y'all talk louder so people can hear you. Sure. >> Okay. Sorry, Bara. Here we go. We'll
5:52 speak. >> All right. Uh number one, what is the single most pressing issue facing
5:58 District 12 right now? And how would you address it in your first le legislative
6:03 session? Please be specific. >> So, I would say, you know, my experience on the campaign trail, um I think
6:11 certain issues are different for different communities. Uh I think we all have the same common uh issues when it
6:18 comes to um you know, infrastructure. Um and I'm talking when I say infrastructure, it's more than just
6:24 about roads. Uh yes, it is roads. Yes, it is bridges. And yes, that's probably
6:29 number one. Uh but it's also broadband which has been uh unbelievable what uh
6:34 has already uh we've seen accomplished with Sprout and our co-op and kudos to
6:39 to them. And so I think that uh roads, bridges, infrastructure type things are
6:44 always probably number one the most consistent. Um but also a traffic signal at Dodge City. Um that's been an issue
6:51 specifically for that area that has come to me over and over again from the folks
6:57 in that area. And so I want to make sure that yes, there's different different um
7:02 communities that have things and needs, volunteer, fire departments, communication, radios. So it's a lot of
7:08 things, but I would say overall our whole infrastructure, roads, bridges, broadband, those have been the most
7:15 consistent. Okay. All right. We'll move on to question number two. What is your
7:21 plan for preserving District 12's small town character while still allowing for economic growth? Repeat that question,
7:29 please. >> All right, we'll go again. What is your plan for preserving District 12's small
7:34 town character while still allowing for economic growth? >> Uh, that's that's something that has
7:40 popped up as well because it is a delicate balance and certainly I don't
7:45 have all the answers. I can just try to point to what we've been able to
7:49 accomplish as a council uh over the years where we do want to be sensitive
7:54 to still having that small town feel uh but yet offer the things that our kids
7:59 want for them to come back and live and have a career in Cullman. And so I think
8:04 the measuring stick that I've looked at being on the council is that have we
8:08 done those things that gives our children a reason why I want to come
8:12 back to Cullman because I can have a career there. I can raise my children
8:17 there. Um this is a safe uh area to to raise my kids and so we want to keep
8:23 that intact. Um so I think it's a combination of working with all our
8:27 leadership and being sensitive to our constituents of what they want to see going forward. uh whether it's growth in
8:34 retail, growth in our housing, uh industrial development, uh all these things play a role in our economy, and
8:41 I'm certainly proud um of what we've been able to do so far, but there's
8:45 still more work to do. Uh and this district is very widespread. So, I want
8:50 to make sure that everybody understands that they've got a voice with me uh in
8:54 Montgomery. And I certainly this is not the end of our relationship. It's just
8:58 the beginning. And I want to make sure everybody knows going forward that I
9:02 will continue these trips around to listen to my constituents. >> All right, thank you for that. Uh we'll
9:08 move on to question number three. How do you plan to communicate with and stay
9:13 accessible to constituents once elected? >> Well, I give everybody my cell phone number. Um people say you don't need to
9:20 do that, but I do. It's part of my I'm a small business owner and so I'm used to
9:25 giving my my number out because that's my livelihood. uh if I don't show up to
9:29 work and sell cars, I don't I can't feed my family. So, that communication I
9:33 think is really better than ever. Uh I think anybody in leadership um whether
9:38 it's their cell number, whether it's their email, uh whether it's meeting over a cup of coffee and be willing I
9:44 think that as a public servant, I think I and we need to do a better job of
9:49 being proactive and we see somebody that may have questions or may have an issue,
9:54 reach out to that person. And I think I've learned a lot about that on this
9:57 campaign trail because we do have people that may not know me. Um they may have
10:02 heard other things and when you need to be sensitive to that and be proactive
10:06 and reach out to them and let's sit down over a cup of coffee and let's talk
10:09 about these issues. And so I think going forward um people have got accessible to
10:14 their leaders more than ever. I think it's up to the leader to be receptive
10:18 and act and make sure that they respond and respond quickly. >> Okay. Thank you for that. All right.
10:24 We're going to move on to a uh audience question. >> Okay. >> So, this is random to me, too. So, uh
10:32 fundamental to a good local economy are high-paying professional jobs, engineers, scientist, high-end manufacturing, and certainly other
10:41 career fields. In general, there seems to be more focus on bringing in consumer top business to the district.
10:51 These create more low-end minimum wage jobs. What will you do to attempt to
10:57 bring in high-end technical business to create more professional jobs? I think that you lean on um obviously you know
11:06 our industries and business leaders. Obviously Dr. Carloitz here has been very instrumental in uh leading um you
11:14 know Wall State and all the wonderful things the opportunities here for people to pick that career path and um we do
11:21 have some areas that I would love to tap into whether it's the culinary side or
11:25 some of the areas that you mentioned where we have just you know the
11:29 engineering side you're seeing so much in Huntsville uh obviously with all their growth and I think uh Cullman
11:35 County as a whole plays a role in that our workforce development to me I think
11:39 has been phenomenal uh because we've got folks that you know obviously have got a
11:43 skill set that they can do things with their hands and so being part of
11:47 Leadership Alabama I've been able to travel across the the state and see what
11:51 other areas are doing and I'd love to see some of these things come back to
11:54 Cullman uh that maybe we are lacking u but I think that number one you know we
12:00 live and die of sales tax in order to pay the bills uh as a council member
12:04 that's my job that's my duty I've take we're kind of hold the purse strings
12:07 things um for uh the city council and going forward of of doing things. And so
12:12 we we want to be able to have these events, our Christal market and some of
12:17 the things we do are park and wreck and bring people in and then enjoy our, you
12:21 know, facilities and events and then leave and go back home. And so we're
12:25 able to enjoy those here even though somebody else is helping pay for it. So
12:29 when your streets done, when these, you know, city services and county and these
12:33 services that are uh done, those are done by sales tax. That's how we pay for
12:38 things. And so I think that going forward with with with young people and
12:42 I've got four children uh here and they've all, you know, got expressed ideas of what they want to do. It all
12:48 goes back to helping them and assisting them in the right career path and Wall
12:53 State down here is a gym to help uh do that. >> And so how would you help uh redirect
12:59 jobs out to that district that are higher paying? I think it's um s kind of
13:04 sitting down with our leadership, county commission, and obviously our uh everybody involved to try to show what
13:11 we have and some areas that maybe would be a good spot for them to locate their
13:15 business or locate their, you know, plant or locate in their facility. I know Ray Howal with their engineers,
13:21 that facility turned out phenomenal out front there and that was a different type of job that we hadn't seen at that
13:28 time. So, u I think that we've got a lot of things already here, but there's
13:33 certainly some things that we can kind of attract, but they also they want to
13:37 be able to live here as well, you know, and so we've got a lot of great things
13:40 that we can, you know, we can offer. Uh Smith Lake obviously is one and then
13:45 just our downtown and just all these areas that we have. There's a lot of
13:49 options and opportunity here. And so, I think we can just kind of work with
13:53 folks that want to to to to locate here and we need to make it where it's
13:57 attractive. We're going to move on to another audience question. Will you be the voice to fight for the
14:05 people voters to be able to vote on projects or lotteryies etc. Uh not
14:13 others making decisions without their vote. So they feel their voting matters as many don't vote due to such.
14:22 >> Okay. So, we've kind of had a similar I think question before when it comes to
14:26 the lottery and gambling and those type things. Certainly uh that needs to be a
14:31 vote of the people, but like what I've said before on any type of uh proposed
14:36 uh retail development or industrial development, um any anytime we've got a a presentation or proposal, the devil's
14:44 always in the details and we need to make sure that we read over what's being
14:49 presented and we go through because a decision is not made that day, that
14:52 week, sometimes that month. And so you really need to understand what what's being proposed. Uh ultimately when it
14:59 comes to the lottery, I know that will continue to come up, but ultimately that
15:03 needs to be a vote of the people. >> And so for the ones that are being
15:06 proposed that wouldn't be a vote of the people, how would uh what is the best
15:09 way for people to stay informed and how would you keep them informed of what's
15:13 going on? >> I think that uh when you're obviously in session, it's going to be tough just
15:19 because there's so much going on. Uh, but I think you know after you come out
15:23 of session, I've already been used to going to a lot of these community
15:26 centers and senior centers and volunteer fire departments and obviously doing this forum right here. Uh, I think it's
15:34 that's all part of this is making yourself accessible and I think the media certainly can help with that and
15:40 let's get the word out and I think if we deal with things on the front end, uh,
15:45 it's not as much of a shock for people when something does happen. And there
15:49 again, that's on the leaders. That's not necessarily on the voters. The voters do
15:53 need to be informed. They do need to obviously want to learn, but I also
15:58 think as a leader, we need to make sure and include them in ways that be
16:01 receptive that they want to be involved. >> Thank you for that. All right, we're
16:06 going to get back into our questions. Uh the trivia questions with number four
16:11 and uh this is the district is experiencing population growth which puts strain on infrastructure.
16:18 How would you secure funding to repair and expand roadways without raising local taxes?
16:24 >> Uh, so that's a really good question. We have uh obviously I've I've done this.
16:28 I'm still doing it and we'll continue to do it. But you guys remember um I'll
16:33 just look at uh 305 exit. Uh if y'all remember that area is a main artery
16:39 there, 222 going out to the lake and our industries. Uh it took a lot longer than
16:44 it supposed to, but eventually that project got done. That was over a $10
16:49 million project. And the city of Cullman, the county, not everybody can do I mean it takes everybody coming
16:56 together to do a project like that for that interchange. And so on that
17:00 specific project, the state was involved, the city of Cullman was involved, the county was involved, Good
17:06 Hope was involved. Um everybody came together and built and got that interchange done. And then I was also a
17:13 part of resurfacing from high I65 all the way to Toprey. Uh we were involved
17:20 in that. That was about a million dollar project. We work with ARC and CDBG in
17:25 order to get that done. And so qualifying for grants, having a good skilled grant writer, you know, so we
17:31 can uh kind of get in our application up to the top to get these funds is
17:36 crucial. And so I've been a part of these projects, these these signals and
17:40 interchanges and things that are just they're big projects. 157 and uh four laning there. Uh we just got finished
17:47 with St. Bernard Bridge project. We're trying to secure funding there. So there's a lot of really good things that
17:54 have happened, will continue to happen, but it does take more than just one
17:58 group to do it. You've got to bring people together and we all have to have
18:02 kind of that common goal to take care of all of Cullman County, not just a select
18:06 group. And I think we've done that and I've done that and proud to be a part of
18:10 it. >> Thank you for that. We'll move on to question number five. Some intersections
18:16 in our county have seen repeated fatal accidents, yet red lights or stop signs
18:22 are slow to appear. Can you walk us through how that process works of
18:28 getting a red light installed, especially when it's on a state highway or a federal roadway? Yes. And so that's
18:37 a another example of um you know 24th Street in Cherokee. um if any of you
18:43 guys travel that area um that was also a problem. Um and once again, we've got an
18:48 obligation uh to assist in our industries that had invested a lot of money and employees and things in these
18:55 trucks getting uh their goods back and forth. And so if any of you guys have
18:59 traveled through there, uh it was like Frogger. I mean, it was scary because it
19:04 truly was just it was really um confusing and and and scary at times
19:09 turning in and out. Uh that was a project once again um that was RWC, our
19:15 industry here in town, Good Hope and the city of Cullman came together and built
19:20 that traffic signal and that was uh a huge win for everybody with our
19:25 businesses, our residents and our industry in that town in that area has made such a huge impact and that's been
19:31 just a few years ago. So that's one example uh another example of once again
19:36 people coming together and doing the common good for our constituents. >> So when people approach or contact you
19:44 um even if it's just one individual talking about specific intersection would you go out and view that? Would
19:50 what would you do? >> Sure. And I think it's uh it sometimes it's tough to take the emotional out of
19:55 the emotional side of out of decisions. uh you do need to look at the data and
19:59 the research and look at all those things because sometimes people just feel just feel like they need a stop
20:04 sign or they just feel like we need this and and I understand that there may be a
20:07 personal connection there and may have had something happened there to a relative and I'm certainly sensitive to
20:13 that. Um you just kind of get into you don't want to make things worse either.
20:18 Uh and so I think it's important that in that example uh that I just mentioned,
20:23 there was an outcry from our businesses, industry, and and residents in that area
20:28 that something needed to be done. And so we stepped up, we receptive to those
20:33 requests, and obviously we made that project happen. West Maine was another one with all our families, myself
20:38 included, going back and forth from the ball field, soccer and and and football
20:43 and basketball practices and baseball, all this. And so we've reserviced that parking lot. West Main now has a nice
20:50 crosswalk. It's got a traffic signal there. And West Mine now is probably one
20:54 of our probably the second most traveled roads uh in Cullman. And so in that area
20:59 through there, it was uh crucial to make that safe. And that's been a big
21:03 priority of mine going forward is that public safety. And >> so that would be something you would
21:07 carry over into district 12. >> Yes. all of this district. Um, we were
21:11 talking about 222 with some folks down in Crane Hill area that's have had some
21:17 situations that were pretty scary with a drop off shoulder. And I I understand
21:21 that people are doing as much as they can with the road departments and
21:24 things. And I think it was Chairman Clim that says that we have 1,800 miles of
21:29 roads to maintain in Cullman County. That is that is unbelievable uh to think
21:34 about. And so I just think that at the state level, um, there's some things
21:39 there that we can do to assist with that. And then also in DC, like I've
21:42 said before, they have the big checkbook up there. And so that's how we got 157
21:47 done. That's how we're getting 278 done. And so all these entities, and once
21:51 again, it's your tax money that's being used that we're getting back to pay for
21:57 these projects because people always wonder where's my tax money going? Well, I can point to it. And so I think that
22:03 is something that with this whole district from going around uh we do have
22:07 roads and and bridges that need to be addressed to make sure they're safe.
22:11 >> Okay. All right. We'll move on to question number six. Thank you for that.
22:15 I know more extended than the other ones. Uh number six. Tourism is grow is
22:21 a growing part of our economy. >> What's your vision on expanding tourism while respecting existing communities?
22:31 So, uh, one of the great things I am obviously the liaison for tourism and
22:37 really, really love being able to be a part of what we've been seeing, um, with
22:42 our park and rec sports tourism to our airport to our chamber, our museum. Once
22:49 again, anything that will attract folks to come in and help us pay for things
22:53 are always good where it's not a tax burden on our locals. Um, and so I think
22:58 with the sports tourism side, I think that it is a delicate balance. Um, one
23:04 of the things that a lot of times I have to remind people, we've got some great
23:07 community parks. Um, the folks that were way before me having that vision of
23:12 setting aside little community parks all throughout our our uh, Cullman and our community was fantastic. And so um, our
23:21 director Nathan Anderson had had the idea of improving what we already have. And so those have been vital. We're in
23:27 the process of doing one over in East Side right now. Uh but it's opening up a
23:32 forum to those folks in that area to what do you want in this area? What do
23:36 you want in this community park? Um and so that has been really good hearing the
23:41 feedback because sometimes what we may think people want may be different versus when you actually get there and
23:46 talk to them one-on-one. Um, but I just think people need to understand that it
23:51 all goes back to the the the premise of um giving our children a reason to come
23:57 back to Cullman to work and raise their children all through Cullman County. And
24:02 so um I think with our diversity of what we can offer, there's areas in the
24:06 county, there's areas in the city and the lake and we've got so many, you
24:10 know, beautiful areas that people can live and raise their family and actually have a career here. And so I think that
24:16 we do need to be a little bit receptive, more receptive of exactly before we do a
24:21 main project, what that impact's going to be, good and bad. But I think we've
24:25 done a good job of that and we're going to continue that. >> Okay.
24:28 >> All right. Well, that brings us to another audience question. >> All right.
24:34 >> So, yeah, another audience question. >> All right. See if I can figure out who
24:37 asked this one. >> We got several on this one. So, we're gonna have fun because I mean, we got a
24:42 little time. >> Yeah. All right. So, uh, Mr. Haulingsworth, with your many years of
24:47 public service, what are some of the infrastructure projects that you helped to bring to Cullman, and what are you
24:54 most proud of? So, I think that, um, with my experience over the years of
25:00 seeing this transformation of things that were either in neglect or decline, um, infrastructure definitely was one of
25:08 those. We had bridges um, that firet trucks could not cross. Um, and I think
25:13 we've been able to do Eva Road Bridge, Larkwood Bridge. Uh, those are two uh
25:18 projects on the bridges that were uh drastically needed uh and that have improved safety and lower insurance
25:25 rates for our homeowners. Um, I think that um projects that have helped everybody coming through Cullman who
25:33 lives in Cullman, works in Cullman, uh is Highway 157 with that expansion. that
25:39 took years and years and years of uh just being u very demanding to get help
25:46 for this. And so those trips uh to DC to try to get with our leaders that we've
25:51 got to have help and you've got to go up there with one maybe two solid requests
25:58 and be laser focused on that. And I think the county and us have come
26:02 together on that particular project and it was great to see that finally done
26:07 and the ribbon cutting and that has helped our residents, our industries, our businesses uh all up and through
26:13 that stretch. Um so that is a big project that I'd like to hang my hat on
26:19 that helps everybody. Um and then St. Bernard Bridge is the next one that
26:23 you'll see that name my name and others will be attached to when that's
26:27 completed. uh even though I'll be rotating off the council, I know that they're going to see that through. And I
26:33 just think that once again, it's teamwork. It's everybody coming together for the common good. And it's so
26:39 important that you work with people to get these big projects done because not
26:43 one entity can do it by themselves. >> I'm going to ask a followup to that.
26:46 It's a little it goes with it. Um I hope the audience member doesn't mind. Uh the
26:51 interstate we hear all the time people talking about the interstate's two-lane we need it three lane. We need it three
26:57 lane. I know that people have discussed uh it's been discussed about going three
27:03 lane. So what would you do to kind of help push that through and get that done
27:07 as quickly as poss? >> Yes. >> Okay. I think from what I've heard that
27:13 President Trump actually in one of his um uh big announcements speaking to a
27:18 lot of Alamians was that whole I65 from the Tennessee Alabama line all the way
27:25 down to the coast. So if elected I may have to hold him accountable to that.
27:30 So, um, that would be a massive undertaking and but I think we all would
27:36 agree that would be a huge impact to be able to to help with traffic flow. And
27:42 we all can relate that we see accidents unfortunately along I65 uh that do uh get routed through 31 in
27:52 our city uh for folks to try to get around it. And we've seen that and we've
27:56 been impacted by that. um it's almost like the Bermuda Triangle uh down there
28:01 at certain times. And so I think that that's something that yes, a lot of
28:05 these big projects have to be done in phases and I know it's aggravating.
28:10 There's delays. Um you know, we've seen this before along I65. Um but certainly if that's a main
28:17 priority for our constituents here, I certainly would support that. Uh, I just know that sometimes it's kind of
28:24 prioritizing those things and being realistic of actually what can get done. But hey, I won't ever put a a a ceiling
28:32 or a cap on Cullman County when it come when it comes to getting things done and
28:36 improving our quality of life. >> All right, thank you for that. We'll move on to this person's second
28:41 question. Uh, Cullman County has one of the lowest unemployment rate rates in the United States. What companies did
28:48 you help to recruit to create better paying jobs for our community? Well, I
28:55 think that um some of our industries that we see here um you know, I'll think
29:00 of um um some of your Royal Technologies that we talked about. Uh I know that
29:06 we've had several expansions in our industries as well. So, it's one thing to recruit them. It's another thing to
29:11 actually give them a reason to stay because everybody's it's so competitive. All these states and communities would
29:18 love to have these industries in their county for jobs and careers. Uh and so I
29:24 think we always look at what's being recruited new, but let's look at the the
29:29 talent and the folks we've got here in place to keep our industries here. And I
29:33 think that's one things that resonates when you see a top, you see a Ray Howal,
29:38 you see some of these that's been here for a long time. Uh there's a reason why
29:42 they're staying here. And I think that all our leaders in Cullman have done a
29:46 really good job of taking care of them and addressing needs, you know, down the
29:50 road because right now our workforce, it's kind of a double-edged sword. We have such such low unemployment rate. Uh
29:57 it is difficult finding people, you know, to to fill these positions. And so
30:02 we also need to have housing for these folks too. When they finally land
30:05 somebody to work here, they've got to have an affordable place that to live as
30:10 well. Um, and so I think that, you know, looking at some of the industries that
30:15 we've attracted and we've recruited on the new side, but also been a part of
30:19 the expansions and also the retention. I think all three of those are are
30:24 crucial. Uh I think the retail was another biggie that I was a part of uh
30:29 when all the retail started coming to us uh back around really 2012 a little bit
30:34 later is uh Publix and and Dick Sporting Goods. That was a dying area that now
30:40 it's unbelievable driving through there and what has trickled up close to 157. Um I think that has been tremendous for
30:48 that area of town because there were business owners and residents saying y'all got to do something. This is a
30:54 eyes sore in our community. We've got such a great town and county, but going
30:59 through here, it it's just sad. And so the retail growth has also been a huge
31:04 part uh of job creation as well. >> Okay. Thank you. All right. We're going
31:09 to move to this person's third question. They, like I said, they have several
31:12 questions on here. All right. Senator Gudger has been able to bring back many
31:17 of our tax dollars lately for school and infrastructure projects and improvement. sorry, infrastructure improvement. With
31:25 your experience, do you believe you will be able to bring more of our money back
31:31 to this community? >> Absolutely. I feel very confident in that. Um I think that um relationships
31:38 at the end of the day matter. Um, you may have all the data and research and
31:43 things to get things done and prove that, hey, I need this for my area, but
31:48 at the end of the day, so do everybody else in the state of Alabama when it
31:52 comes to needs. And so, you've got to make sure that you can work with people
31:56 that may not even agree with you and make your case. you need to show up and
32:00 do your job and make sure that you're standing uh down there firm uh for your
32:06 constituents here in this district and make sure that you uh make the case of
32:10 why my area needs it more maybe than another area does. And so I think once
32:15 again that's being in tune with your constituents in this district. Um, but I
32:19 feel very confident um of what I've been able to do and work with people here uh
32:25 in our community already that will translate uh here for this whole district and for all of Cullman County
32:31 for that matter. U it is working with a team. You it's it's it teamwork is what
32:36 matters when it comes to these big projects and being able to to get the
32:40 funding and the money and the grants and all these things. you've got to be able
32:43 to to work and use these relationships that I've established all these years to
32:48 be able to make things happen. And you know, it's all about being effective.
32:52 And I feel confident that going forward that I'm going to show up and be
32:56 effective for this district. And I think it's going to be unbelievable what we're
33:00 going to see in the future when it comes to making improvements and addressing
33:03 these needs for for the district. >> All right, this will be the final
33:08 question for the audience. Do you support medical cannabis for the sick and dying to give them a better
33:16 quality of life? Well, you know that my opinion of this has really changed um
33:22 you know from a personal from a personal outlook um prior to me you know I was
33:29 diagnosed in 2006 with non-hodkkins lymphoma and I think it was a deal that
33:35 certainly at 29 years of age that was a complete shock to myself and family at
33:41 the time and my outlook on uh medicinal Um, cannabis certainly changed going through chemo. And if anybody has ever
33:52 battled cancer of any form, uh, there are certain times, uh, dealing with what
33:57 I had to deal with, um, I wish I had a gummy, you know, because I needed relief
34:03 and it was something that an aspirin wasn't going to cut it. And so, I know
34:07 there's a lot of folks out there that deal with very similar pain. Um, and
34:13 it's something that there is a product out there that's safe. um that is has
34:18 regulation um that it truly is something that's going to do what it says it's
34:22 going to do then why would I be against that? uh I went through this myself and
34:28 um I would be a hypocrite u saying otherwise and I think that's the part
34:33 that people really have a problem is dealing with people that you know they're being hypocritical about issues
34:39 but that affected me personally and that's something that resonates and so my my view on that certainly had changed
34:46 after I went through six rounds of chemo and one of the drugs was called red
34:50 devil and it lived up to its name and so uh and that you know by the grace of God
34:55 that I'm cancer-free. Uh that was back in ' 06. We're in 2025 now and I'm still
35:00 here. And so um certainly if that would will help somebody with their pain, uh I
35:06 certainly understand. >> And a followup uh to that would be Alabama's already legalized medical
35:13 marijuana, but they have dragged their feet to get it into dispensaries to actually get dispensaries named,
35:21 licensed. Uh, I mean, we have a a local hemp manufacturer here in Cullman County
35:27 who's one of the first to start help with the legislation, but they are
35:31 dragging their feet. So, how would you get medical marijuana in dispensaries and to medical clients?
35:41 >> And you're you're right. Obviously, they've already, you know, passed this and things and I know they got a lot of
35:46 the synthetic and things off the shelves and um and certainly, you know, obviously I was not down there to deal
35:53 with the the inner workings and details of that. Um, that would be something I
35:58 would like to kind of look into, say, all right, where we're at here. You
36:00 know, where where what's, you know, kind of what's the latest uh in this because
36:04 I know there are folks that are kind of wondering, you know, what's going on?
36:08 And so, that's something I'll be glad to look into when I get down there, uh, and
36:13 relay that back to people that have asked questions that may not be getting
36:17 any answers >> and figure out why, what, what's the holdup? >> And we need to figure out those details.
36:23 And so, um, like I said before, it's it's kind of reading and understanding
36:29 exactly and seeing what what what what's what's going on with any type of bill or
36:33 any kind of legislation, what's what's the latest. Uh, and so I'll be glad to
36:37 check on that for sure. >> And we'll get back to our trivia questions with number seven. Well, seven
36:44 for the trivia. Sure. All right. As a freshman legislator, what specific committees would you seek to join to
36:51 maximize influence for district 12? >> Well, I'm a small business owner, like I've said, and so I think that's
36:57 probably hits closer to home um than anything else. And so I just see and
37:03 hear from other small business owners uh what they deal with and obviously from
37:08 the tax side of it to just the burden and and and you if you don't have
37:14 multiple streams of income coming in these days, it's really hard to support a family. And I just think that um the
37:21 small business owners, it really is probably what I'm closest to. um which you know obviously as a council member
37:28 you want to be deal with with everybody but at this level I think that would
37:32 probably be something that would hit closer to home with me just because it's
37:36 things people trying stressing out trying to make payroll and things like that that just it's a different animal
37:42 than government and so that's the positive with me as your candidate is I
37:46 understand both I've seen the governmental side and how that works and I've seen the small business side and
37:51 how that works and that's unique you don't get that with with each candidate
37:55 it. Um, and I think that's a advantage with myself is that a lot of this is
37:59 personal to me because I've experienced it. I've gone through it. I've done it.
38:03 I'm doing it. We'll continue to do it going forward and making sure people
38:07 understand that. I get it. I get it. I truly do. >> All right. This is going to be a fun
38:12 one. Okay. All right. Number eight. In one sentence, why should voters trust you to represent
38:19 their values and interest in Montgomery for the next? Well, this will be for
38:25 eight to 10 months, but >> So, so why should the voters trust me?
38:30 What was the rest of that? >> Uh, why should voters trust you to
38:33 represent their values and interest in Montgomery? >> Well, um, I mean, obviously I live here
38:38 in Cullman County and I'm, you know, obviously the candidate that can relate with a lot of different people and I've
38:46 got experience. um if they're doubtful of what I'm bringing to the table, I can
38:50 point to multiple things uh in my community that I've played a role in.
38:55 Did I do it by myself? I'm not saying that at all. Uh but I played a role. I
38:59 was part of the team. I was a starter and I wasn't a third string, you know,
39:03 uh candidate here or somebody that was a benchwarmer. I was actually involved. I
39:07 was in those meetings. I was dealing with these people that were coming and
39:11 making these proposals. And yes, I know you said one sentence, but uh I think
39:15 ultimately it's the experience, the resume that is actually real uh all of Cullman County and this area that I can
39:22 point to. >> Okay, that leads us to number nine. Families across district 12 are feeling
39:29 the strain of rising cost from groceries to gas to housing. How will you help
39:34 families struggling with a rising cost of living? So, I know that the grocery
39:39 tax was something that I I feel that that will probably most likely get
39:43 reduced. To what level? I don't know. But certainly anytime you can reduce taxes, that's a win for everybody at
39:48 whatever level. It doesn't matter. Um I think that there is rising costs. We
39:54 were talking about um earlier um with some of the costs of your produce and
40:00 it's just like it's scary to keep seeing these prices go up up and up. uh at what
40:06 point is it going to level out, you know, and so kind of getting into the
40:10 weeds of exactly the details of what can be done at that level to assist with
40:15 that? Certainly the tax part of it is an element potentially, but I think there's
40:20 some other things that maybe could be looked at. I know um gasoline um
40:25 obviously is something that anytime that drops that's obviously a big win but you
40:29 know I think the overall mindset from what I hear with people is yes we want
40:35 to reduce taxes yes low as possible um but if there is a tax or you are we all
40:41 are paying taxes if you can at least see where that tax money is going and it's
40:47 actually going to a real project it's going to a real need especially in my
40:51 district, then maybe people will be at least reasonably dissatisfied, you know, with that. And so, I think it's
40:58 something that um I think most people understand they're going to have to pay
41:02 taxes. It's just they want to see where it's going, how it's being utilized, and
41:06 being good stewards of it. And I think with myself, um through the years and my
41:11 public service already, I've got a record of truly being responsible uh for sales tax that's in. And I think that,
41:18 you know, anytime we can bring sales tax in, it'll help all of Cullman County.
41:22 And so I think regulations another element of that and looking into seeing what's causing some of these high costs
41:28 of things. So that's something at that state level um I would love to educate
41:32 myself more on. >> All right. And um you mentioned the grocery tax that has been reduced a
41:37 little bit. Would you be in favor of a suspended or an eliminated grocery tax?
41:43 Um, I definitely would like to see because certainly what you don't want to
41:47 do is feel like you're improving an area over here, but then there's a there's an
41:51 increase over here and it's there's, you know, playing the shell game with people
41:57 that doesn't go over well. And so, it's important that if you're truly going to
42:00 cut something, let's cut it and make sure it's effective and it affects everybody. I know the overtime, you
42:08 know, taxes. I've heard you there's obviously rumblings of trying to do something there. Um, obviously we all
42:14 eat in restaurants and things and a lot of these waiters and waitresses and
42:18 their tips being, you know, taxed, different things like that that people have talked about. So, anytime you can
42:24 reduce a tax and truly reduce it and cut it out, the better. You just don't want
42:28 to cut here and then over here something goes up. That does not go over well.
42:33 >> Okay, that makes sense. All right, and we're going to move to question number
42:37 10, which is a uh as you know, Cullman County is one of the most productive
42:43 agricultural regions in Alabama. How would you help those farming families who are facing challenges like higher
42:52 input cost, labor shortages, and unpredictable markets? you know, the farmers and people that I
43:00 know, they either bought trucks for me or in that industry, the poultry um side
43:05 of it specifically. Um, you know, agriculture and these farmers are the backbone of Cullman County. And I feel
43:12 like sometimes they may feel like they kind of get left out when it comes to
43:16 certain things. Um, talking with, you know, certain farmers that I know, I had
43:21 a poultry farmer contact me. He knew that I was a chairman of Cullman
43:24 Jefferson Gas and he said, "Clint," he said, "Um, I'm I'm I'm I need some help
43:30 and I need some help. I'm I've paid my bills and but cash flow is tough right
43:35 now and uh I just need a couple extra months to to to pay this bill." And um
43:42 so I've looked into it and he's been a great customer. And um he um he uh I
43:49 could tell in his voice it it was an issue. And so I looked into it and we
43:54 helped him and we were able to spread that out just a little bit further than
43:58 say what our policy said is we use common sense and we we listen to him and
44:02 we looked at what you know obviously he's doing and he's a local guy in the
44:06 southern part of Cullman County that just needed some help that month or the
44:10 next couple of months. And so that's something that we're able to extend that
44:14 and he was able to to pay that off and I think that's something that being
44:18 receptive and make sure that you are sensitive to what these farmers are going through. A lot of them are under a
44:24 lot of stress, a lot of debt and things are trying to pay off and there's such
44:27 an unpredictable market when it comes to poultry or anything else for that matter
44:32 of what the future lies. And so that's just in a personal example that I
44:36 appreciate him calling me because if he's going to pick up the phone, track
44:39 me down uh as the chairman, >> uh that meant a lot to him and it
44:44 certainly meant a lot to me to help him. >> So would you be open to meeting with
44:48 farmers and other other industries and >> discuss I spoke to the alpha board here
44:53 locally. Um that was a few that was actually last month and u I had a great
44:59 time getting to talk to them, listen to their side of things. uh that board.
45:03 There's so many board members and so many farmers throughout Cullman County. Um and everybody's got needs and they
45:09 need help and relief and so certainly I'll be glad to meet with any group. I
45:14 have met with several groups. I'll I'll I'll meet anywhere anytime. So, um it's
45:19 been really great on this campaign trail to get to know people, sit down, uh and
45:24 just talk about the issues. I'm always willing to show up and talk about the
45:28 issues. >> All right. Well, that brings us to our last question. I knowast everybody's like,
45:35 "Yes, finally." All right, so number 11. Strong schools are the backbone of a
45:40 strong community. What will you do to help support and improve local schools in district 12?
45:48 So, I think number one, believe it or not, I'm actually a physical education
45:53 major and uh attended Wall State. Then I end up going to Athens State um and I
45:59 finished in 1999. My wife is also a physical education major. She taught a
46:05 couple years at Hville down here. Uh all her family, her mother and my
46:10 father-in-law and all her grandparents and aunts and uncles, the Carters and the York family. We've got a long
46:17 lineage of educators uh in Cullman County. Her greatgrandfather York um was the superintendent of Cullman County
46:25 schools back in the 60s. And I've heard a lot of praises from educators um that
46:31 either were were their first job was in Cullman County and was hired by uh Mr.
46:37 York at that time. And so it's been really cool to see the impact of her
46:42 family, the Carter side and the York side of being educators. And my sister-in-law just retired as an
46:49 educator. And so certainly that's resonates big time with me and making sure we take care of our teachers and
46:56 our administration and being able to attend their teacher institutes each year, being able to attend the county um
47:04 all the principles and assistant principles and um being able to get to see and and and be around them. And so
47:11 this whole district and county as a whole, I've been able to fellowship and
47:14 talk and listen to them. Um I think that going forward finish up the question here on exactly
47:23 >> all right what will you do to support and improve local schools in district 12
47:26 >> help improve yes so obviously I know Senator God just presented a check and
47:31 that was I'm sure uh tremendous and big impact um I think that you know being
47:37 having the relationships I have with Shane Barnett and with uh Coloff uh with
47:43 the city I think is tremendous because your board members you need to know
47:47 them. You need to be able to to listen what their needs are. And so education
47:52 uh is a main priority and we need to make sure it's properly funded. Uh but
47:57 not just on the level of our schools here from elementary, middle school, and
48:01 high school, but obviously Dr. uh Collerwood's here at Wallace State. All levels it's important. Um we also have,
48:09 you know, with our uh uh Cullman Christian School and St. Bernard, we've got a lot of options for education here
48:15 in this county and I would definitely want to be receptive and available to
48:19 help every single one of them. >> Okay. All right. Well, that brings us to
48:24 the end of all the questions and so um we're going to turn it over to you for
48:30 your closing statement and then I'll do my little closing statement when we're done.
48:33 >> Absolutely. That'll be good. Well, obviously I really appreciate you guys attending. I appreciate you guys that
48:38 are watching at home, taking your time out. uh to listen to what I have to say.
48:43 And obviously y'all have expressed issues um for the last few months of what's important to you and if it's
48:49 important to you, it's important to me. And so I just wanted to make sure that
48:53 you guys know going forward that everybody will be representative um and and represented in my district when I
49:00 attend and I go to Montgomery and fight for you and what you need uh here in
49:04 this area. And so our community is fantastic. all of Cullman County. We've got a lot of potential, a lot of great
49:10 things going on. Um, but I'm a small business owner. I'm a father. I'm a
49:14 granddad now. And so, there's a lot of things that I can relate with you guys
49:19 and everybody with uh when it comes to the things that we're facing right now
49:24 and the stresses that families have on themselves right now. And I just want to
49:28 let you know that certainly uh I appreciate your support and your vote going forward and certainly your prayers
49:35 as well because this has been quite the road. The campaign trail is tough. It's
49:39 not easy. Uh but it's also been very educational. Uh getting to know everybody in this district and being
49:45 able to learn how great we really have it in Cullman County. We talk about a
49:49 lot of the problems, but we've got a lot of great things. And I want to be able
49:53 to continue uh in the future of bringing things back to Cullman County because if
49:58 I'm not effective, then certainly I'll be replaced just like that. And rightfully so. If I don't do my job and
50:04 show up and deal with the hard questions and deal with things on the floor uh in
50:09 Montgomery, I've got no business being down there. And I'm going to fight and
50:13 I'm going to work hard. I'm going to be strong and I'm going to go. Even though
50:16 those days may get tough and I don't want to show up and I can come up with
50:20 every excuse in the book, I will be there. You've got my word and obviously
50:25 um you know where to track me down, a lot of you out there. Uh and so I want
50:29 to make sure that I've got people hold me accountable as well. Um but I'm
50:34 serving and have served and will continue to serve because it's a deep rooted commitment that I've got to
50:40 Cullman County. When I came here from divorced parents in 1994, uh Cullman welcomed me with open arms from day one.
50:49 I had friends immediately that welcomed me, took me in. When I married my wife
50:54 in 1997, her family took me in, supported me, loved me, and I felt
50:59 special. Um, obviously when I had diagnosed with non-codgins lymphoma in 2006, once again, this community loved
51:07 on me, prayed for me. While my child, my son was down at Children's Hospital
51:12 fighting for his life, my wife needed to take care of him. Once again, you guys
51:17 prayed for me, loved on me, took care of my children. And then when I excuse me,
51:22 when I uh also needed this community to support us and love us through the
51:26 adoption with my son that's sitting right out there that's from Porta Prince, Haiti. You guys stepped up once
51:32 again and supported me, loved me, and embraced my son as if everybody else in
51:38 my family. And it's been tremendous to see this this outpouring of love, prayers, and support from all of Cullman
51:46 County. And I will forever be in its debt going forward. And so that's what
51:50 drives me. That's what gives me that fire in the belly going forward is
51:54 because what you have done for me. And that's why I do what I do. because I do
51:58 get asked that why in the world would you be running for this position and
52:02 it's all deeprooted because what Cullman County has done for me. >> All right. Well, thank you uh thank you
52:09 for coming uh answering our questions and showing up for our voters and our
52:14 audience. Uh and with that, this session is in the books. >> Can I say one more thing?
52:20 >> Yes, go ahead. >> August the 12th is the day to vote. Tuesday, August 12th. I couldn't go
52:27 without saying that. >> That's fine. >> Hollingssworth for the house. >> So, please go out to vote and I
52:33 appreciate all your love and prayers going forward. >> All right. We will see uh you at the
52:38 results Tuesday night. Uh it starts at 700 p.m. Feel free to follow the results
52:44 live on our Facebook page. Uh we wish all the candidates the best and we want
52:48 to thank everybody for coming out and have a safe trip going home. Thank you
52:53 all for attending. >> Thank you.











