2020 Cullman Municipal Election Debates: Clint Hollingsworth & Steve Cummings, City Council, place 4

0:07 well good afternoon this is wc man with the coleman tribune we are back with the next installment in

0:12 our 2020 municipal election debates we have with us now clint hollingsworth and steve

0:20 cummings who are contending for coleman city council place for a tourism committee we are keeping things uh socially

0:31 distant and safe so we are talking through mass so be sure and speak up

0:37 and tell it out loud so we're going to begin with steve introduce yourself tell us why you are

0:48 running for city council hey my name is steve cummings i'm i've been involved with the city

0:53 uh the past 13 years as planning commission member i'm the vice chair for

0:57 that and uh i've been able to see the the progress the city's made and

1:01 they've made great progress in the past uh tremendous growth in that amount of time

1:06 and have been great to be a part of that and i just um coming from the world of

1:10 business uh i think i could bring another element um that um another part of me is the the

1:18 business part but uh to be able to kind of do my part and volunteer my services um

1:24 it's a kind of a creative um problem solver i guess it's my choice of

1:29 words but um it's been great being with the city planning commission so this will be the next step

1:37 okay clint same question introduce yourself tell us why you are running again while you're

1:45 wanting to come back to city council thank you craig i appreciate you guys having us here today an

1:50 opportunity to kind of share our thoughts and discuss some important issues yes my name is clint

1:56 hollingsworth i'm running for re-election for coleman city council place four which is a tourism spot

2:04 i graduated from coleman high school in 1995 and then i went to Wallace State and

2:10 finished there and went to athens state and got my education degree in pe and i'm married to leslie york

2:18 hollingsworth who's also from coleman we have four beautiful children and here on earth and we have one

2:24 in heaven coleman has been so great to myself and my family through the years

2:31 i love coleman but coleman first loved me and i really appreciate the people here

2:37 and the opportunity to serve the past 12 years 2008 was my first election

2:43 and we've seen some incredible things come along the last 12 years and i'm

2:48 just glad to be a part of that and i'm just looking forward to four

2:53 more years and be able to serve this community and i appreciate everybody's support and

2:58 vote on august 25th all right as we get into our questions clint you'll get this one

3:05 first last may the city announced the planned construction of a new multi-sport indoor complex at the site of the old

3:13 marvin store on main avenue southwest across from heritage park adjacent to the coleman wellness and aquatic center it

3:22 said the facility will feature six full-size basketball courts will also support numerous other sporting and

3:28 non-sports events do you believe this is needed in coleman and why or why not absolutely um that has

3:38 been a topic a lot of folks have asked me basketball and volleyball is probably your top two fastest growing

3:46 sports nationally and i've had my own children involved in several tournaments volleyball and

3:53 basketball and you see the growth of those sports those sports are not more important than the other

3:58 sport around but there's an opportunity where we can have folks come into coleman

4:04 spend sales tax dollars here and be able to have the exposure for coleman to folks all

4:11 over the country and not only will that facility host those two sports but you can do

4:16 wrestling archery uh cheerleading anything under a roof that can be hosted e-sports is another popular

4:24 uh sport right now there's all there's a host of things that can be done with

4:28 this facility and it is going to be a great facility um we've kind of put it on hold for right

4:34 now but it's a it's a facility that is needed and because we live and die off sales tax

4:40 dollars to pay the bills in coleman and so that's something i would like to

4:43 see happen and but we have other projects as well that needs addressed and but that facility um

4:50 is going to be top-notch just like the the wellness and aquatic center has been as well and so i just look

4:56 forward to being a part of it and help with some ideas and and get it going

5:01 okay steve same question does the does the city of coleman need the multi-sport

5:10 and other event complex i think we saw some of the early numbers of what would draw and it's

5:21 amazing since we lost the civic center and we sold the civic center to desperation

5:26 church you know you need to uh that filled a gap for like different kind of um

5:34 facilities that you needed for that so this would be another thing that would

5:36 be a use besides the ball sports and stuff like that i know that um the draw that heritage

5:46 park has had over the years you know when they first built it people

5:48 complained about that and i was i was a huge fan of it and so anybody that's a

5:53 detractor that says we don't need this just give it time it's uh it's well worth

5:58 the investment and um to me it is perfect because it's going to tie

6:00 together the heritage miracle field and then also the wellness center i think it's

6:05 the perfect spot for it and uh so it's a no-brainer uh and um i think you

6:12 know we have kind of you know the aquatic center is great has some

6:17 basketball courts but you can draw only so many with a tournament with just a

6:20 couple of courts so this would be huge and uh since we're located centrally between huntsville

6:25 birmingham guests and you know uh muscle shows these these uh tournaments are huge

6:31 draws for basketball and volleyball volleyball is massive too so if you've got the

6:36 facilities they'll come and i'm going to rebuttal the right word to this is that this has been a three or

6:46 four year um project that has been looked at and talked about in design

6:52 and so this is something that's been going on for several years and so it's something that there's still

6:58 a lot more planning and things that need to be done and so like you know a lot of the

7:04 projects that you do the aquatic center was a 15 million facility that you know had some some things there that

7:11 people weren't sure about but it ended up being the best thing for coleman and i foresee this as well

7:16 sure anything else from you on that one absolutely all right steve we'll come to you first with the

7:22 next one here a big topic around town is rock the south and people seem to either love it or

7:31 hate it um how about you do you feel it's beneficial to coleman why why not yeah i do i think it is it's

7:37 kind of put us on the map a little bit i think it's done

7:39 and the parks have did a great job when they had heritage you know that was that was good

7:45 and uh worked with shane on that and uh i mean it had its problems i think when you had

7:51 some complications anything that that large but as far as the draw that it added to the community and the

7:56 multiplier effect did you get when people spend the money from out of town

8:00 it's um you know and you can't put all your eggs in the rocket spot south basket because you

8:07 know and i i see that this year it didn't go off because of the covey that's that's a

8:11 rare thing but you know it's i think it's been a good thing uh

8:16 i would definitely want to see it continue at whatever level we can you know sustain

8:22 and i i'm sure there's a place where it could get too big for but

8:27 as it is now i think it's great and if if it works out well i

8:30 i could see you doing two years you know two two per year would be great

8:34 if we could you know add another one another event maybe spread them out a little bit but it'd be

8:40 good to work with uh shane and his people and and see what else we could i would just facilitate

8:46 and uh help them out okay clint yeah that's the rock lasalle is made a tremendous impact

8:54 in our community not only the city but for the county and you know coleman has always done an

9:01 incredible job of exceeding expectations and rock the south is an event that is once a year

9:09 and the amount of people that come to coleman alabama from all over the globe it's um it's

9:16 unreal and i've mentioned this several times to friends and other folks that ask about

9:23 it is that you see these major artists your eric church your luke bryan

9:28 your florida georgia line your hank williams jr all these artists you see on the back of

9:33 these shirts you know new york city los angeles california chicago and then you see coleman alabama

9:42 on the back of that shirt to me that resonates and you can't put a

9:45 dollar amount on this event of what it does for the city of coleman and the exposure

9:51 in the sales tax dollars that it brings and if you ask the hotels

9:55 what's the number one weekend they have where they're just at capacity it's rock the south weekend and we like

10:02 i said earlier we have to have sales tax dollars generated people coming into coleman

10:08 spending money staying here buying gas and then leaving going back home to help us pay our bills and rock the

10:15 south has done a tremendous job of that but yes there are some things that

10:20 obviously can always be improved and obviously keeping folks safe and keeping you know traffic flows all these other

10:27 things that we've heard negative about but rock the south overall is a positive

10:31 for our community we'll come to you for the next one another big topic

10:41 is the rv park being constructed at the borough property off county road 222.

10:48 what are the benefits of this park the benefit of this park or several

10:56 number one i've got a close personal friend and his dad um that got a

11:02 a business and uh and i'm in the loop of some of this recreational

11:06 vehicle stuff i'm not one of those people but i've got friends and family

11:10 who are and i've talked with several different folks that are in that rv and in that

11:14 world and the amount of people buying the campers motorhomes these recreational vehicles is

11:24 unbelievable right now people especially right now with covet people want to get outdoors they want to

11:29 travel they want to you know see all sorts part of our great country the rv park

11:34 is going to fill or basically address a niche in the market right now

11:39 that people right off the interstate that when they're traveling through once again can have exposure to coleman have a safe

11:46 environment that they can camp stay here for a couple of days and leave

11:51 and our rv park is going to be tops of anywhere else in the nation

11:56 and we've got great leadership with park and rec that's overseeing that and it's going to be able to host from

12:02 the biggest motor home down to a little pop-up camper and everybody in between

12:07 and so they're going to offer so much out there at that site and i'm looking forward to get it you

12:13 know for it to be being built and constructed even though i'm not in that world

12:19 it is addressing an issue that we don't really have a safe place and a proper

12:24 place for all the recreational vehicles and the popularity of that in our country right now and i

12:29 think that's a great site and safe location okay steve your thoughts on the rv park

12:35 well definitely right there and it's so close to 65. you know if you go back up north or

12:42 south there's not really a great place to stop and people that have rvs they're

12:45 heading to the beach from up north it gives them about six more hours to

12:48 the beach it's a perfect place to stop and we've got smith lake the second

12:52 cleanest lake in the in the country you know just 15 minutes down the road

12:56 that could be at the water and to me it's just a no-brainer that

13:01 the city when they had the property then the uh the bass hall of fame didn't go through and that

13:06 was it was a great great idea for the project but that when that

13:09 failed at that location you know it's uh it was a real good idea

13:14 to to come up with the campground i know some people would say well you know that's you know you're

13:19 getting into somebody else's business that's a but really if you look at it

13:22 there they have campgrounds that uh smith lake park that's a municipal they say a government

13:28 entity uh sportsmanship same thing so to me it's uh i think people would trust it more being

13:34 a municipal type facility than joe blows campsite you know and and that will get people off the road because

13:40 they know i can trust this this is a city facility this is and you've got the

13:45 the biggest straw too is the restaurant's going to be right there off of 205 and you know 305 and uh

13:52 so you'll be able to go into town and i think it's great i really i look

13:57 forward to i've been by several times to see the progress and it's uh it's coming

14:01 along pretty well i think and uh it's gonna be really nice with the

14:05 trails walking trails and stuff like that part of it so i'm excited i would like

14:09 to just can i add one thing this rv park if it's a complete failure

14:14 it just is not what we thought it was going to be you bulldoze it up

14:18 and let's find something else to do exactly and i know that sounds kind of

14:22 but it yes it's an investment but it's not like you're building some 30 million facility and here we go we're

14:28 stuck with this on how to you know pay for it and how to host

14:31 events for it if it's a complete failure bulldoze it up and we'll we'll do

14:36 something else but tell me the last time park and rec has failed at something yeah everything

14:41 they touch has been successful now some more than others but with this rv park i think it's going

14:48 to be fantastic and i think it's going to address a niche like i said earlier

14:52 that's needed anything else you want to add okay all right also on the rv park there have been

15:04 folks who have raised questions about how the city went about putting this together and this will be

15:12 for for you first here steve do you think the city was transparent enough in its

15:20 planning leading up to the announcement of the park yeah kind of came through to us late in

15:27 the in the planning uh from the planning commission uh we got a request for um

15:33 conditional use or something like that exactly what the so we didn't see plans or anything but

15:38 we saw they sought us for conditional use i think at the property and so you know we didn't see it

15:44 so i don't really know how far along it was when we saw it

15:49 you know you try to be transparent uh you can't really um so i don't know the process how far

15:56 things had gone before we saw it and how far usually when we see things

16:00 the public see it too because we can use it about the same time

16:02 so um i probably can't speak to it because i don't really know you know how you know if they're trying

16:10 to hide anything i wouldn't imagine but i don't see how it could be

16:15 less transparent but like i said i'm not on the inside of it so you know i don't

16:18 really know well number one our parking direct department and city council we don't hide anything from anybody

16:28 number two um it's important that the public knows there's certain projects that are uh real sensitive to

16:37 um allowing information to get out until the time is right and what i mean by

16:41 that is that burroughs property was a great family in the coleman that um we worked orchestrated a deal

16:50 and and the family wanted that property to be able to be used for the public for

16:56 recreational type use and sometimes you can't announce and do things until the time is right heck

17:02 sometimes people know stuff before i do uh and so right now in the information age we're

17:08 in social media that we're in you can get any information any minutes whatever you want you go to city hall

17:15 you can email there's all these different ways forms of where how you can find

17:20 information out and so this time more than ever if you want to know something whether

17:26 it's ask a question from an individual city hall or what there's public minutes

17:31 there there's things that you can go to to find out things and certainly

17:35 i welcome anyone's welcome to call me and ask me anything and if i don't know

17:40 it i'll find out and i'll get an answer for you okay he's right certain things you you just

17:49 can't release i mean until whether it's um you have approval for it yet

17:55 for certain things and so you don't know if it's going to go through but you got

17:58 to start the planning stage before you ever get a chance to so there's planning involved that you

18:02 have to do ahead of time that the public may not know about so

18:07 you try to be transparent and add to that you know and he's on the planning

18:10 commission um you we have to sign confidentiality agreements sure at times because of certain projects and things

18:17 coming off okay so just because this may be an inner city park and rec city thing versus something

18:23 from another manufacturer or retail development there are times where we just as much as we want to we cannot say

18:31 anything until the time is right and we have to sign these agreements sure but

18:35 absolutely we as a council and as a council member we would never ever and have never kept any information

18:42 from somebody and obviously we're always open for folks coming to our meetings and coming at that time to express any

18:51 concerns or questions we'll come to you there has been recently questions about the

19:04 management of the lodging tax here do you think that and there was a

19:11 there was a question about moving the lodging tax from the coleman area chamber of commerce to the

19:18 city do you think that moving the the management of the the lodging tax from the chamber to the

19:26 city would be a wise decision the lodging tax is so important uh for the city of coleman

19:35 and um years ago that changed and it didn't work out the way the city

19:42 council wanted at that time but that's that's in the past okay uh do

19:47 i think that the city council needs to handle a city lodging tax absolutely we do

19:54 uh do i think that we should keep all of that money necessarily maybe not but i think the intent the way

20:02 it was written was that the city council economic development specifically as well was in charge and needed to help

20:10 distribute that but there again that's not where we're at right now let's work

20:14 with what we have but it is important for the city to have the sales tax

20:20 i mentioned earlier and the lodging tax so we can pave roads so we can help the school

20:25 system out so we can do these things to help our community out and that

20:30 lodging tax is so important because it's people outside of coleman coming to spend the night in these

20:36 hotels that generate that money it's not put on the taxpayer in coleman that's what's so great about it and so

20:43 the city council we're we're in charge of contracts and money so why don't we control all of

20:51 that and that's that that's an issue and hopefully one day we can get that back okay steve

21:00 i think he's right the uh the city should be in control of that uh i'm familiar with

21:06 some of the stuff from the chamber i was on the chamber for several years i

21:09 was the small business committee chairman i ran uh christmas in coleman a couple

21:14 years and then i was on the board with the chamber they do great work

21:17 but like say just the city's money they should be oversight and they should

21:21 they should control it and uh i wouldn't have a problem with the city

21:27 taking all of it back and and i know that's kind of them but um

21:34 chamber has has its benefits you know and i know there's certain things that

21:38 the city can't do that deals with businesses so i think it's it's important but the city

21:43 like saying that the lodging tax is a pretty good chunk from the last last ones i saw was

21:48 a pretty good tax so you know the city should have it all right and then steve we'll come to

21:55 you first with the next question looking forward from here what are some things you'd like to see happen in

22:06 coleman over the next 10 or 20 years to bring more tourism dollars in

22:14 well um of course the obvious the the complex there to marvin's area one the first step i'm not sure the

22:21 time frame of that it's gonna take several years to bid out and to get

22:24 complete and get up and going so that would be the first thing that

22:27 if i went in the first focus would be on that uh down the road

22:31 i think um marketing coleman is a uh you know we we do a lot of we pick up a

22:39 lot of business from the city of coleman from outlying here it's not necessarily from

22:43 birmingham but if you're on the bubble so you live at joppa sometimes sometimes it's just

22:47 cheap for them to go to arabs it has come to coleman so my

22:51 marketing background would tell me we need to get all those people that are on the bubble

22:55 when you get evo instead of going to decatur we need to get you know fun

22:58 so i think the push would be to bring in people that are outliers and just make coming

23:03 more attractive it already is attractive but uh where we're at to bring in people

23:08 that uh make sure we get all of that and and kind of go after that as a marketing

23:12 kind of a and market coleman is you know your hometown is maybe adopted but we're your hometown if

23:19 you're involved if you're in even kind of go after some of that and

23:23 that's tourism dollars too because they're coming in to bring it in from outside the county so

23:27 and then maybe you know blooming festival that's not part of the city but

23:32 they do a great job so maybe what we could do to facilitate other people who

23:34 want to do a festival and uh so um i'll say rock the south sea

23:40 it grow would be great too so that's why okay clint next 10 to 20 years to bring

23:47 tourism dollars to coleman yeah i think we're already doing what people are seeing your strawberry

23:53 festivals your oktoberfest your rock the south your archery tournament i mean those are just some things that we're

24:00 already doing that are kind of non-traditional in some respects that other towns are not

24:05 number one we want to maintain a safe environment uh in coleman for so it's so it's

24:11 conducive for families to come in to coleman and shop and spend their money and spend the

24:16 night the indoor complex we talked about earlier it's going to be expensive but it's going to be in people all over

24:22 the country to that facility we also want to make it a pedestrian friendly environment too

24:28 our downtown is vital we've already done so much for our downtown we can do more so i think improving our

24:34 downtown obviously with park and rec being involved with our indoor facility we've got duck river that's just

24:41 finished up you're seeing folks that come around that may want to do the trails for

24:46 biking the disc golf there's so many different activities special events things that we're doing in coleman that

24:54 other towns and cities are not they're dying we're growing we're progressive these other folks are still stuck

25:00 in 1950 and so we're doing the things to move coleman forward and i think

25:07 from the retail development the housing development industrial development jobs all this is part of the big

25:14 overall cycle of how things are going right now but i think the biggest impact uh is our

25:21 special events our park and wrecked activities and things that we're doing and expanding

25:26 on those and i'm i'm open to more creative ideas and suggestions for more events that we

25:31 can host all right and then the next question will come to clinton and this is not a

25:44 tourism question but this is a question that has come up for the council in in general

25:55 education education and education infrastructure has become a topic of conversation in this campaign cycle clinton do you think the

26:06 city does enough to fund coleman city schools i think we can do more i think we've

26:13 already done quite a bit through the years since my tenure i can't speak for prior to me

26:19 but since so late the way the half cent sales tax is grown and grown and grown and grown this last

26:25 year alone generated like 3.5 million dollars of a half cent sales tax in one year

26:31 just that all right when we recruit industry when there's housing developments when there's retail developments when

26:39 you have folks coming in for a special event or a rock the south

26:42 we mentioned earlier those are all part of taxes that are being spent and those taxes help go toward paying

26:51 the bills for the city but also toward our schools and it's important that those are well funded

26:56 that high school is unbelievable but the middle school looks like it's from the stone it needs

27:02 a major improvement okay our elementary schools need improvement and so it's a situation that we've had all this

27:11 growth and all these things that have been wonderful but we've also had some areas

27:15 that in some respects either need attention or have gotten left out but nobody is more pro-education than me

27:22 right now i've got four kiddos four kids in the system i've got them at the elementary level

27:28 high school level i've had them at every every school in the city other than east

27:32 elementary because we live on the west side so we've we i'm and i've got relatives that are

27:36 teachers i've got cousins aunts uncles everybody that i'm related to no friends work or involved

27:42 in the school system so it's vital that we address that and we'll do that in the next four years

27:48 all right steve yeah yeah the education system is very symbiotic to business and to growth this

27:55 uh you know they all need to grow together and uh and i'm sure we are kind of cramped a little

28:00 bit on the you know the high school has kind of bottlenecked us because

28:04 we could take more kids but the high school is limiting factor i think so either you

28:10 know i've heard some people say we'll do a separate ninth grade and use the

28:13 high school for the top three grades because that would work my wife spent 29 years in education she

28:18 started west and and so i've come back with an education background i understand

28:24 a lot of things that go on in education and but from the business side

28:29 if you have good schools it's a huge draw and so we need to do everything we

28:32 can to facilitate the uh you know to make the schools better and i think the um like i say he told how

28:42 old middle school was i was there the second year is the middle school was

28:44 there no round building they do need to do something with that that was a

28:48 different time but the um the school board has got um they've got some plans i'm sure that they

28:56 and when they come to us with what they've got uh it's going to be good i believe i just

29:01 think there's um there's got to be a way to make that work and uh to get us

29:06 a little bit more expanded get the high school where it'll take more kids and um

29:11 like i said that's kind of been the limiting factor i know each elementary

29:13 needs um they need some room too and uh but there's it's gonna work out i

29:20 believe we'll find a way i'll make one comment here um just to clarify the

29:27 the school system has a superintendent and a school board and they're there for a reason because

29:33 they handle the school stuff i don't know what they need or want now

29:36 when they come to us and they say look we need your help like

29:39 they did with the football field the city council stepped up and helped finish that football field we did over a

29:44 million dollars of in-kind services hauling dirt sidewalks paving we have helped that school system

29:51 can we do more absolutely and we will do more but that school system needs to get a plan

29:57 and they have started and have a plan that we need to discuss and sit down at

30:01 the table together and we're going to do it but we've got to talk specifics we've

30:04 got to talk wants versus needs we've got to do this in phases so it's

30:08 going to get done it's not going to happen overnight but it will get done we will communicate

30:13 we'll sit down at the table we'll get it done steve anything else you want to add

30:18 okay all right we are um to the to the closing part of this

30:25 steve we're gonna let you speak first up to three minutes share with the citizens of coleman

30:32 anything else you'd like to share the floor is open um it's been it's been a great run for

30:38 this uh a lot of people think when you're running for city council you're running

30:41 for quarterback but you're really running for referee because the more i look into it you're

30:45 constantly you know battling two sides that uh both want the same thing they won't growth

30:51 for cohen but how do you balance it out uh i spent quite a few years officiating and

30:55 and i draw a lot of parallels to to leadership and to fishing my dad officiated for

31:01 20-something years in football and he taught me a few things when i started officiating

31:07 and one was always hustling to be in position to make the call right

31:10 and so you're there to make the call you observe everything and said number two to sell the call

31:17 when you make a decision you got to get out there and sell it because if you

31:19 don't believe in the call it's hard to teach anybody else or to convince them that that you're making

31:23 the right call and um third is you're going to make a back call from time to time

31:28 own it admit it and uh people will respect that so um and then if the fourth one is like if

31:35 um if you have any don't call at the schools where you went to you know

31:41 try not to have any affiliations where they could think that your judgment might not be that great because i have a

31:49 relative i have so you know keep yourself above approach there so you know the um

32:02 the goal of any city is to to grow and and that's my goal

32:06 coleman is a great city it's not a me too city we're very different

32:10 when john g komen built his place he set the streets so far apart

32:13 people i'm sure complain because it's like what are you doing this is this is

32:16 crazy because most towns built in that air were very narrow streets he had a growth mindset and i have a

32:22 growth mindset so to me you you push and you do what you can to make the city grow

32:28 and i think that's why i'm here so i appreciate your vote thank you

32:34 okay clint floor is open thank you number one i appreciate you all having

32:39 us once again um but i'm here because of the outpouring love and support that this community has given me

32:46 they gave it to me when my folks divorced and i moved here and i didn't know anybody

32:52 they opened their arms and they loved me and they supported me my wife's family

32:57 supported me loves me and opened their arms back in 1997 when my wife and i got

33:02 married they also supported me loved me prayed for me when i was diagnosed with

33:07 non-hodgkin's lymphoma at the age of 29 in 2006. they loved me they prayed for

33:13 me and they took care of us and that's one of the reasons why i ran

33:18 the other thing that they did for my family is they supported me loved me and prayed for me when my son

33:24 passed away in 2007 they also have embraced me and loved me with our

33:29 adoption of our son from port-au-prince haiti he doesn't look like everybody else in coleman

33:35 but he he loves coleman and coleman loves him and they embraced him they've never said anything negative

33:43 there's always been an outpouring of love from these people in the city of cullman and the county of

33:48 coleman and i appreciate that and that that makes a big deal with me on my passion and love for

33:55 this community because they love me and then when they didn't even know me

33:59 and i've worked my tail off in trying to do the best for coleman i tried to make the right

34:06 decisions i tried to hold my tongue when i needed to and i also am very passionate

34:12 on being inclusive bringing people together and let's get our ideas and our opinions

34:20 together and let's figure out what challenges we have like because we do we've got some

34:24 we've got some challenges but a lot of these challenges are due to what has been created the last 12 years

34:32 it's it's a lot of it's a lot of issues that are good issues and they're issues

34:38 that we can handle whether it's schools whether it's infrastructure whatever that may be

34:43 we can do it coleman always exceeds expectations now we've got a virus that we've got to

34:49 deal with i think it's imperative that as a city voter you deal with somebody with experience

34:56 that's been through it that's made the tough decision they can deal with the social media

35:01 implications the good and the bad and i believe right now is more important than ever to have

35:08 somebody in there that can make a decision and be strong and will work hard for you

35:13 and that's me and i appreciate your vote august 25th and i need your prayers and support

35:19 because it's a lot of hard work steve knows as well door-to-door is not easy

35:22 it's hot and but it's worth it because our community has done so much for my family and his as well

35:30 and i appreciate the the time today and ask for your vote on the 25th thank you

35:37 gentlemen thank you thank you thanks you